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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:13 #1

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http://www.oldplankmarina.com/boatspecs.php?bid=000023

I am planning on going next weekend to look at it, but talked to the dealer and he is saying there is zero on it that needs fixing or repairing. He also said the price is wrong and it should be 14500. I think thats a little high, but I like the boat (at least in the pictures).

Any advice or opinions here?

Been reading like crazy on this site and love the information and makes me want to buy a boat right now.

Gonna do some long weekends and day trips , and this looks like a well kept boat for the price, but its hard to info on this model. Looking for my first boat, so at the same time I want to wait to get a great deal and want something now to start upgrades and getting familiar with it.

Thanks again for your help.
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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:18 #2

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Welcome to BOC!

Two suggestions, survey (w/ sea trial) and it is a buyers market, make your offer (if you do make one) low.

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welcome to the zoo John....................:arr

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:23 #4

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John, Welcome to BOC :arr, She looks very nice !!. :)

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:27 #5

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Welcome! You'll learn alot here. I sure have. Just stay out of the Political Pundits forum for awhile until you get the lay of the land...!

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:30 #6

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Yes, a sea trial and a survey before buying. I know enough that I dont know enough about boats and will need to bring in professionals.

It does look very nice and I know i need to crawl all over it. I was hoping someone here would tell me that it will sink the second I buy it. that way I save explaining why I have another time/money wasting hobby and why wont I ever grow up. :)

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:32 #7

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Welcome.

In addition to the error in the price on the listing, the suggestion that the boat sleeps "6" is a bit of a stretch for an 8'6" beam V berth boat.

Agree about survey and test run.

Inside, it will be very similar to our 2755 and we liked the boat alot...

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:56 #8

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I am local to you. This place is down near the Cal Sag? If you want a second pair of eyes, I could be tempted to come down and give it a once over with you and teach you what to look for.

I agree with the survey. Also find out what engine and drive it has on it. I see 260 hp...that makes it a 5.7. If it has a Bravo 3 (twin props on one drive) then its powered well. Base engine was a 5.0/Alpha, and optional was a 5.7 ALpha. 5.7L Bravo 3s were as good as you could get back then.

This boat is distantly related to the 1980s Bayliner 2455 (you can see a 1988 version of it immediately behind and to the right of the one you like, in the storage rack) and was a very popular boat in the 1990s.

There's a lot of us BOCers in the area, so stay friendly and get to know us.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 21:58 #9

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Agree with all that was said above.......survey, sea trial, buyer's market and don't be afraid to go low on first offer - assuming you decide to try.

Good luck and welcome!

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Welcome! Good luck with the boat purchase! Definitely go with the sea trial and survey. That price of 14,500 seems a little steep in my opinion.

http://www.yachtauctions.com/listing.php?vessel=4439

Here is another option if you aren't afraid of a little work. Looks like it needs canvas, bimini, and a clean up.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 22:12 #11

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Looks like single not dual prop

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Download_Complete;413756 wrote: I am local to you. This place is down near the Cal Sag? If you want a second pair of eyes, I could be tempted to come down and give it a once over with you and teach you what to look for.

I agree with the survey. Also find out what engine and drive it has on it. I see 260 hp...that makes it a 5.7. If it has a Bravo 3 (twin props on one drive) then its powered well. Base engine was a 5.0/Alpha, and optional was a 5.7 ALpha. 5.7L Bravo 3s were as good as you could get back then.

This boat is distantly related to the 1980s Bayliner 2455 (you can see a 1988 version of it immediately behind and to the right of the one you like, in the storage rack) and was a very popular boat in the 1990s.

There's a lot of us BOCers in the area, so stay friendly and get to know us.



I may take you up on that offer. This weekend is out, and as of right now, I am planning on heading down next Saturday (the 13th) if its still available. The dealer said its indoors in the heated storage because so many people want to see it. :)

. I will send you a PM closer to the date to see if you are available. Thanks again.

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k2crasher;413759 wrote: Welcome! Good luck with the boat purchase! Definitely go with the sea trial and survey. That price of 14,500 seems a little steep in my opinion.

http://www.yachtauctions.com/listing.php?vessel=4439

Here is another option if you aren't afraid of a little work. Looks like it needs canvas, bimini, and a clean up.


About half off what I am looking at currently. Does anyone have a rough guess to what a canvas and a bimini top costs?
Clean up doesnt bother me, as with all first purchases (house, car, motorcycle), I kinda like having to clean up. Gets me more connected and familar with the boat.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 22:33 #14

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charheep;413773 wrote: About half off what I am looking at currently. Does anyone have a rough guess to what a canvas and a bimini top costs?
Clean up doesnt bother me, as with all first purchases (house, car, motorcycle), I kinda like having to clean up. Gets me more connected and familar with the boat.


I am sure you could get a new canvas inclosure for around 1500-2000, or maybe get lucky and find a used one. Also that boat won't include a trailer. So there are some things to consider. Plus it's a repossesed boat, so a good survery would be in order as with any boat. Just throwing out some options.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 22:35 #15

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welcome to the zoo...first off..get it surveyed by a certified surveyor..that means hull/drive/engine
then low ball him...not alot of people are looking at boats..especially right now in the middle of winter.....so he's pulling your leg a bit....
then meet in the middle....
a new canvas from leta's will probably cost you about 1800 bucks...that's complete with all canvas and eisenglass....she has that pattern so it's no big deal for her to cut it out and mail it too you..

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 22:41 #16

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Dealers will say anything to get a sale. If alot of people are looking at it then something is wrong with it for all of them to walk. Like eveyone says low ball them. Alot of people are hurting so they are selling there toys. Good luck & don't fall in love with it, you'll pay to much.

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I have owned a 99 2655 for 10 years so if you have any questions just ask. For the record the v-berth is for kids, mine out grew it at 12, also its heavy (almost 6000 wet) so if you get a trailer make sure its rated.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 02 Feb 2010 23:46 #18

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John,
First off Welcome to BOC.
And now for the boat looks nice and as said befor get a survey donw with seatrial and it is a buyers market he said thats the wrong price shoot I would bet if he is hungry enough he will take the $12.400 he might even take $10400 dont know till you ask.
Anyway good luck.

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A friend of mine had a 96 2655. He loved it and used it for many years fishing in heavy seas of the West Coast of Vancouver Island. I cruised with him on occassion and fished with him on the boat. Very enjoyable and handled large seas surprisingly well.
He did however have a problem with hull blisters that showed up after warranty expiry. He repowered in 2006 I believe and sold it last spring for 20000 Cdn.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 03 Feb 2010 00:09 #20

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Welcome to the BOC!:arr

charheep;413723 wrote: He also said the price is wrong...

I agree, the price IS wrong. Not that NADA is gospel, but without options, they list it at between $8,150 and $9,250 . Note that in using the options checklist on the NADA site, some of the things you can check off are actually standard equipment, and will therefore inflate the final estimate. Matt (Download_Complete), the walking Bayliner encyclopedia, can probably tell you which items fall into that category.

Good luck!

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 03 Feb 2010 00:51 #21

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I owned a 96 2655 with the same 5.7 engine. Mine had an Alpha drive. As far as the boat goes it is very seaworthy for it's size. I had mine out in Lake Erie in 8 footers more than once and the boat can handle it.

The one thing I did not like about mine is this. It was a gas hog. The 96 version of the 5.7 engine was pre-vortec heads and it actually used more fuel than the 96 2855 with the 7.4 I traded it in for. Other than that I have no complaints. Matt might be able to answer if the engine is pre or post vortec. The 5.7 is a great powerplant.

The aft cabin is roomy enough for two and it has plenty of room below for it's size.

You have already received some great advice. Good luck with your search and welcome aboard.

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welcome to the club / zoo. if you need a hand let me know . i live close by .im in Tinley Park .

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RGrew176;413850 wrote: I owned a 96 2655 with the same 5.7 engine. Mine had an Alpha drive. As far as the boat goes it is very seaworthy for it's size. I had mine out in Lake Erie in 8 footers more than once and the boat can handle it.

The one thing I did not like about mine is this. It was a gas hog. The 96 version of the 5.7 engine was pre-vortec heads and it actually used more fuel than the 96 2855 with the 7.4 I traded it in for. Other than that I have no complaints. Matt might be able to answer if the engine is pre or post vortec. The 5.7 is a great powerplant.

The aft cabin is roomy enough for two and it has plenty of room below for it's size.

You have already received some great advice. Good luck with your search and welcome aboard.


1997s are right on the cusp. Some got Vortecs, some didn't. I'd need to do research to see how to tell if its a Vortec or not.

I also see its a single prop drive, likely an Alpha. At least it has a 5.7, and I see it has a SS prop as well.

You also got some good advice regarding NADA. Don't listen to the dealer, NOBODY is looking at boats in the dead of winter right now. Be sure you ONLY select options on NADA that the boat HAS that WAS OPTIONAL. Canvas was standard on that boat, for instance, and if its missing, you DEDUCT money from NADA's figure. Canvas is about $3000 on the high end, and Leta should have a pattern for it. CD player was standard on that boat, not an option, so you do NOT select it on NADA.

Just call me if you want a second set of eyes. I love looking at boats. :)

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 03 Feb 2010 04:23 #24

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Download_Complete;413917 wrote: 1997s are right on the cusp. Some got Vortecs, some didn't. I'd need to do research to see how to tell if its a Vortec or not.

I also see its a single prop drive, likely an Alpha. At least it has a 5.7, and I see it has a SS prop as well.

You also got some good advice regarding NADA. Don't listen to the dealer, NOBODY is looking at boats in the dead of winter right now. Be sure you ONLY select options on NADA that the boat HAS that WAS OPTIONAL. Canvas was standard on that boat, for instance, and if its missing, you DEDUCT money from NADA's figure. Canvas is about $3000 on the high end, and Leta should have a pattern for it. CD player was standard on that boat, not an option, so you do NOT select it on NADA.

Just call me if you want a second set of eyes. I love looking at boats. :)


I hope it's a vortec. The vortec engine is a much better engine. I knew the change occured sometime after 96 but was not sure when.

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New to BOC, saying hello, and looking for advice on this boat 03 Feb 2010 06:27 #25

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I notice that the add states "Revised: 10-07-2009 08:11". So I would consider the price to be as per the add otherwise he has had nearly 4 months to fix the "wrong price.

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