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Vancouver marina fire 13 Oct 2009 18:43 #1

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but holy smokes... This is not good.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fire%20crews%20battle%20Coal%20Harbour%20Marina%20blaze/2096670/story.html

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Vancouver marina fire 13 Oct 2009 18:53 #2

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That sucks, hope everyone is okay and the boats are well insured.

I'm not sure boats have gotten any less flammable in the past century, versus when they were made of wood and tar. FRP, vinyl, upholstery and especially upholstery foam, all very flammable.

Fire safety is no joke on a boat as it's basically a big bonfire of expensive flammables, with gasoline, alcohol, and plenty of stuff that gets hot.

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Vancouver marina fire 13 Oct 2009 19:48 #3

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With it being winterization time you think the unlucky few are having fires caused by faulty heaters or things near the heaters catching on fire?
Or the more sinister approach of "make it look like an accident and collect the insurance money" ?

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 13:17 #4

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I would hope the owners of boats like that have good insurance. I know my marina requires insurance on my boat and liability. I have seen a couple of boat fires in the past and they go up QUICK!

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 14:37 #5

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VaBoater;365587 wrote: I would hope the owners of boats like that have good insurance. I know my marina requires insurance on my boat and liability. I have seen a couple of boat fires in the past and they go up QUICK!



Oh, owners of yachts at Bayshore West Marina in Coal Harbour, Vancouver are most likely owners of Insurance companies themselves!
It's one of the most prominent marinas in the city...
No lives lost, which is important.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 15:57 #6

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They all look like very expensive new boats. I would say that the total loss is more than $1M. My insurance has a max of $500K which is the normal in my area. What do you have for max?

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 16:51 #7

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Thank goodness there was no loss of life. I boat can be replaced.

Looks like a 50+ foot Sea Ray...can not tell the others.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 17:56 #8

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majoma;365663 wrote: They all look like very expensive new boats. I would say that the total loss is more than $1M. My insurance has a max of $500K which is the normal in my area. What do you have for max?


What do you mean? The hull insurance for the value of your boat or Liability to the other boats for negligence?

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 19:42 #9

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You must show proof annually when sending in your dues. This amount seems to be appropriate for the current size and age of most of our boats but I could see increasing that in the near future.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 20:33 #10

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I'm talking about liability for damage to other boats.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 20:52 #11

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We had a really bad fire 12 years ago caused by a do it yourself shrink job. As a. result, we have to carry 1 m in liability. My agent suggested I lower my boat policy liability to 250k and by 1 m umbrella. It's a good deal as it only costs about 100/year more than my old 500k boat policy and covers all sorts of nasty liability issues that have nothing to do with boating.

Ya gotta hand it to those fire-fighters. I'd be a little nervous hosing down a boat that might have 200 gals of gas on board.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 20:59 #12

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Vessels involved:
- 2 Sea Ray 44 Sedan Bridges, Navigator 44 (start of fire), Bayliner 3988, Stryker 36
- Several vessels with fibreglass and canvass/enclosure damage
- 3x RIB's, outboards and Seawise systems.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 23:51 #13

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Those big boats must have had diesel on board and not gas.

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Vancouver marina fire 14 Oct 2009 23:57 #14

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Man, this just happens too often and is my biggest fear about my boat in the marina is somebody else who isn't as careful as me or doing an "insurance job" and taking my boat with them. Yep, just plain bad luck and accidents happen, too.

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Vancouver marina fire 15 Oct 2009 00:12 #15

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majoma;365897 wrote: Those big boats must have had diesel on board and not gas.


Diesel goes boom too. :)

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Vancouver marina fire 15 Oct 2009 01:02 #16

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Vancouver marina fire 15 Oct 2009 01:45 #17

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That's a shame for sure.

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Vancouver marina fire 15 Oct 2009 15:26 #18

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Its not the liquid fuel that goes boom, its the vapor. Biggest risk for those guys are the newer glass fiber propane tanks. We (I am a firefighter) are taught to listen for the whistle of the relief valve. Thats the precursor to a BLEVE and even small ones are scarey. Metal tanks can have flames on them for a some time before they fail. Glass fiber will start melting and once they are breached, look out!!

For some cool video of BLEVE's goto YouTube.


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Vancouver marina fire 15 Oct 2009 15:38 #19

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I have seen the test procedures for the composite CNG tanks and they actually hold up pretty well. There is the .50 cal test, bonfire test, impact test, etc.
When they do go though it's quite a show.

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Vancouver marina fire 05 Feb 2010 01:24 #20

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Came across this listing while killing time - thought it sounded familiar (searay 44 sedan bridge.....

http://www.yachtsalvage.com/Listings/YS093067.htm

Not much left..

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Vancouver marina fire 05 Feb 2010 03:59 #21

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Now that's what I call a "project boat":kidding

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Vancouver marina fire 05 Feb 2010 19:40 #22

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You think they'd take a bid that said they owed me $50,000,000.00 USD to take that pos off of their hands?

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