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Pulling the trigger on a 3058 02 Mar 2015 05:58 #51

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Joon, I see spring fever has hit your area this weekend also. The drives look cooked, total replacement or..........?
looks like you have stock in Milwaukee power tools :lol:

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Milwaukee is the bomb! :)
Yeah bro, it's over cooked :silly: I'm still debating whether I should rebuild this POS or Not....most likely will be making a phone call to SEI tomorrow morning.
Ordered a eBay gimbal ring for $300, hopefully I can replace the ring within next few days, then everything should be walk in the park.

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Or maybe this? Imma offer him 600
seattle.craigslist.org/skc/boa/4878526064.html
But 1.62 :angry:

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Drive is off, a beer and a sawz-all!!
Oh how I think we can all relate to this picture.
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Gimbal housings are useable? What ratio are the drives that came off?
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canoel wrote: Drive is off, a beer and a sawz-all!!
Oh how I think we can all relate to this picture.

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builderdude wrote: Gimbal housings are useable? What ratio are the drives that came off?

Dave, housing is good . 1.47

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GIMBAL RING REMOVAL
replacing upper swivel shaft/square shaft is one of the hardest part to replace either with the engine out or not...however I cheated this time 1.5HR.
5/8 horizontal bolt and nut holding the steering arm, big square shaft upper nut, 2 front facing Ubolt.

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Pulling the trigger on a 3058 04 Mar 2015 03:11 #63

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Making some progress forward I see. Keep hammering away. Or should I say sawing away :lol:
Loving the pics.

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Pulling the trigger on a 3058 04 Mar 2015 17:50 #65

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I admire your tenacity! You can save yourself some time and effort by removing the engine (which I gather you plan to do anyway) and then removing the entire transom assembly by taking off the inner transom plate. It's a lot easier that way, and your gonna need a new transom assembly anyway.

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Thank you Chris, but
Nope I'm not pulling the engine this time! I won't need a new transom assembly...keeping this one.
"It's a lot easier that way" nothing is easy when you are working on a neglected salt water boat! Every nuts & bolts will be corroded/rusted! It ain't easy...often times It can take days just to crack a bolt.

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Ruffryder wrote: Thank you Chris, but
Nope I'm not pulling the engine this time! I won't need a new transom assembly...keeping this one.
"It's a lot easier that way" nothing is easy when you are working on a neglected salt water boat! Every nuts & bolts will be corroded/rusted! It ain't easy...often times It can take days just to crack a bolt.


I hear ya brother! I have done a few re-powers so I'm not just commenting without some background. Here is one I documented on this forum: www.baylinerownersclub.org/index.php/for...0-restoration#209351

And here is one that I'm presently undertaking: www.regalownersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8761

On each of these repowers my transom assemblies were in better shape than yours

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And each repower I made the wise decision to replace them. I'm worried that with the holes you cut in your transom assembly and it's overall condition you are just asking for heartbreak. I know it's really easy to spend other people's money, but I honestly believe that you will be money, time and frustration ahead if you just bite the bullet on this one. Your mileage may vary :)

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Pulling the trigger on a 3058 04 Mar 2015 21:23 #68

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Chris, I must say that is the nicest Saratoga I've ever seen! Well done.
"On each of these repowers my transom assemblies were in better shape than yours"...I see that, but your TRANSOM WAS NOT!
Transom rebuilding project will usually turn into a multiple year project...I was actually impressed that you got it done less than a year brother.
I appreciate your concern, but don't worry... I've done many of these in both ways & JR MARINE has been doing it this way for many years, so did Mercruiser.
That cut out part is only 1/4" thick aluminium casting, a custom made Stainless Steel cover plate would be even more stronger :whistle: .
1HR to remove the bell housing stuck corroded drive,
1.5HR to remove the gimbal ring, upper SQ shaft,
2-3HR to put everything back together as new hopefully...

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Pulling the trigger on a 3058 05 Mar 2015 15:21 #69

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Joon I know you had a new gimbal ring coming, assuming your going to throw all new parts at it when it goes back together. What about the props? Looked like they were stainless. Any chance they can be used again?

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Dave, nice SS props! Yes they can be used again...

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What's the what's up with the craigslist drive? Did you get it or........?
I know you said the ratio wasn't correct. Any chance the internals in the old one can be used in the other? :unsure:
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Sorry for the hijack, but what is that product you're using on the black areas? That shine is amazing.

I had to make that same cut into my transom assembly to remove my gimbal ring. Went great and made a stainless plate to cover the hole and attached it with 5200. Looking forward to watching your progress Joon.
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builderdude wrote: What's the what's up with the craigslist drive? Did you get it or........?
I know you said the ratio wasn't correct. Any chance the internals in the old one can be used in the other? :unsure:


Dave, no I didn't... correct drive ratio is important buddy! Sure the internals can be used in the other casing, but way too much work, simply not worth it.
Still looking for a good used gimbal ring locally at this point...

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Diamond_Boat wrote: Sorry for the hijack, but what is that product you're using on the black areas? That shine is amazing.

I had to make that same cut into my transom assembly to remove my gimbal ring. Went great and made a stainless plate to cover the hole and attached it with 5200. Looking forward to watching your progress Joon.


DB wipe new! Yup works wonders.
Is that new 4.3 in yet? Dip stick worked out OK bud?

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