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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 19 Mar 2007 19:20 #51

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There are two spring sizes. Mine is the 8.5 inch long spring, P/N32-929-0035 @$10.95

I used self tapping screws into the cover (Be Carefull) and a bolt/nut into the compartment end. You are really going to enjoy this addition.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 19 Mar 2007 19:58 #52

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I just ordered the spring from boaters world. Thanks for the part #.
I just have 2 questions.
1. The kit online looks like it has different mounts (plastic) than your pictures. Did you purchase different mounts?
2. You use self tapping screws to mount to the lid. Is there enough thickness to the lid to do this. What size screws did you use?

Thanks
Mark

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 19 Mar 2007 20:35 #53

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Here's a link to the spring: http://www.boatersworld.com/product/329290035.htm

It's too bad Bayliner couldn't see how annoying this little thing would be.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 01:06 #54

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Sandy,
Damn good ideas. I just added a false floor and glove box spring (custom made) to my 205 and couldn't be happier. I'll post some pics in a few days of my other mods: Dash mounted GPS/fishfinder, hour meter, DSC VHF, antenna, rod holders, wakeboard racks etc.... I see you are from RPV, where do you launch your boat from? I'm always at Davey's Launch ramp in Long Beach.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 01:50 #55

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 02:23 #56

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G'day all. In January I got my new(ish) 175 XT. This is my first "stink-boat" and breaks a 7 year spell without a boat. Previous ones all had sails but two kids under 4 make better passengers than crew. :)

She is a standard 175 XT but with a custom Bimini that sits a bit lower than normal to keep clear of the wake rope.

I've only put 10 hours engine time on her but spent lots of time sitting in her drinking a few beers in the garage, getting all the gear sorted out, and so on.

I'm glad to have found this forum. Looks like a great place to hang out, share some stories and compare some mods - particularly as it starts to get cold down here.

Cheers, Sean.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 03:27 #57

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Sean, welcome aboard, and the boat looks great!

Cal, I see you installed smart tabs, how do you like them? I have a set sitting in the house waiting to for the weather to get a little nicer to put them on. Let me know what you think of them, and your boat looks real nice!!

Max

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 12:48 #58

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Max,
The Smart Tabs were one of the best mods I have done thus far, if not the best. It planes faster and is much more stable at higher speeds. I noticed the most difference in the ocean but I've only had it in fresh water twice so I guess that is not a fair statement. Installation is a breeze with the right tools. Thanks for the compliments.

Mike (cal5mcd)

Here is a pic when I first got it in Sept:

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 18:08 #59

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markfried;4903 wrote: Sandy
I just ordered the spring from boaters world. Thanks for the part #.
I just have 2 questions.
1. The kit online looks like it has different mounts (plastic) than your pictures. Did you purchase different mounts?
2. You use self tapping screws to mount to the lid. Is there enough thickness to the lid to do this. What size screws did you use?

Thanks
Mark


1.I believe the new springs have annodized end fittings. Mine have bent rod fittings with the ends of the rod flattened for the fastener thru holes.

2.I used sheetmetal screws, sized to fit the holes in the end mount. Based upon the thickness of the lid. choose a length which will not come thru.

Sandy

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 20:23 #60

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I just finished installing my Smart Tabs! I can't wait to go try them out.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 21 Mar 2007 21:20 #61

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oravetz;5675 wrote: I just finished installing my Smart Tabs! I can't wait to go try them out.


Very slick installation! Did you get the Pro Troller option?

And let me ask a newbie question. Those tabs, without the pro troll installed, are forced up but the water rushing by, when the boat gets up on plane, correct?

Also, do you have to drill THROUGH the transome to mount those? If so, do you use any reinforcement at the bolt points?

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 00:11 #62

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Thanks,
I did not get the pro troller option, I do not fish very often. You are correct that the water forces the tabs up when you get on plane. Unfortunately you do have to drill through the transom, at least for the top bracket. The holes for the hinge on the tab I did not go all the way through. There is no reinforcing for them, I did use 4200 to seal, although according to nautilus you do not need this. I believe someone else on here decided to drill all the way threw, and instead of using the screws they used nuts and bolts all the way through.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 01:54 #63

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oravetz;5443 wrote: Sean, welcome aboard, and the boat looks great!

Cal, I see you installed smart tabs, how do you like them? I have a set sitting in the house waiting to for the weather to get a little nicer to put them on. Let me know what you think of them, and your boat looks real nice!!

Max


Thanks for the warm welcome Max.

I'm wondering if I should consider these Smart Tabs too? I'm happy with the ride and plane speeds I get currently but my boat came with a Sting Ray wing fitted already. The previous owner said that it helps keep the nose down when getting up on the plane. Oh, and the 5 blade stainless prop was on there as well.

I'll watch the posts here with interest.

Cheers, Sean

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 05:44 #64

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that brings up a good point SS props

Who has em how do you like them

I just picked up a mint lazer II prop 14X21 I believe - the same as my aluminium prop - havn't tried it out yet though
anyone else

BTW thanks for showing the photos of the mods - It helps me figure out where the heck I can put stuff like fish finder vhf radio etc

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 14:45 #65

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Where did everyone mount their fire extinguishers? I know this sounds dumb but last year I was so scared to drill a hole anywhere on the boat I would not mount it anywhere, I just put it under the drivers seat.

What plans does everyone have for future mods?

I think some of my future mods will be:
1. hour meter
2. vhf radio (can't decide on handheld or fixed mount???)
3. depth finder

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 17:35 #66

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My fire extinguisher is mounted on the kickpanel underneath the dash on the passenger side.
Seems easy enough to get to.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 19:05 #67

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I'm going to mount my extinguisher to the kick panel but I still may get a bigger one. The one that can with the boat is only enough to make a fire mad!!!!!!!
There are a black and white wire from the distrubter is that where you hook up the hour meter wires?

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 22:37 #68

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I have one on the drivers kick panel next to the center wall and one under the rear edge of the passenger jump seat..

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 22 Mar 2007 23:16 #69

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There's alot of fuel onbaord I agree with two. The fuel tank is in close proximty to the engine too. Good move. But Like I tell most people when we do extinguisher classes for public. Unless is small don't mess with get out or in our case get off. Alot of people get hurt and "suck" smoke trying to put iout themselves.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 25 Mar 2007 06:54 #70

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oravetz;5962 wrote: Where did everyone mount their fire extinguishers? I know this sounds dumb but last year I was so scared to drill a hole anywhere on the boat I would not mount it anywhere, I just put it under the drivers seat.

What plans does everyone have for future mods?

I think some of my future mods will be:
1. hour meter
2. vhf radio (can't decide on handheld or fixed mount???)
3. depth finder



get both primary mounted vhf has greater range - get portable for backup and heaven forbid you endup in the water you still have a vhf to transmit your position

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 26 Mar 2007 10:45 #71

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Macgyver

Is that bimini available ‘off the shelf’ in the US? If so, can you give me a part number and a website?

I’ve got a 2000 1750 Capri and it came with the cover that clips to the front of the windscreen – not much shade at the back, and no forward vis over the windscreen. All of the biminis I can find on Australian websites appear to be generic ‘mount in the middle’ and ‘ribbons on each corner’ jobbies. With the poles at the back, yours looks a little more substantial.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 26 Mar 2007 12:50 #72

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I took the boat out yesterday for the first time this year, and the first time with the Smart Tabs. I had a really good day, the boat ran great, started on the first turn (I did start it at home the day before and got it all ready).
The Smart Tabs seem to work great, at idle speed the boat did not wander at all, used to have to steer all the time to keep it straight, that was completely eliminated and the boat went perfectly straight, didn't even have to touch the steering wheel. The bow stayed pretty low on accelleration, and got on plane very quickly. I never had the bow so high that I couldn't see over it. This was nice also. At high speeds the boat handled great, I think I picked up about 1 mph top speed, 46mph. It is hard to say though because I was alone on this trip and I that is the first time for me to be completely alone and I was on a lake not the river I usually run on.
One question about the tabs though, I noticed a good bit of spray coming up from them at high speeds, is this normal? I would have taken a picture of it but the one thing I forgot was the camera :( Anyone who has the tabs install could you tell me if you get alot of spray from them. Next time I go out, probably this week sometime, I will take a picture of it.

Overall impression of the smart tabs, GREAT MOD!!! They are definately worth the money, easy to install, and does help performance. For me and my admiral the no wandering at idle speed is worth it, she hates driving when it does that. I highly recommend them to anyone who is thinking about it.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 26 Mar 2007 15:09 #73

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[IMG]http://E:boat_filesDSCF1873.JPGHere are a few additions I have made to our 2004 185. So far I have a GPS/fish finder, bimini top, VHF, Lighted guide posts, and added new speakers in the bow area. I plan putting on the smart tabs as soon as I pick up the boat from storage in 2 weeks. http://www.usboatingclub.com/gallery/index.php?cat=10052

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 26 Mar 2007 16:12 #74

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Yeah the tabs do so much that even if they only do half as much as they say, they are still a great mod. I took my boat out yesterday and made some more adjustments to get the tabs dialed in. --- Gained 2 mph from before.

Here's a shot from yesterday.

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Small Bowriders....Lets see what you have and have done ! 26 Mar 2007 16:20 #75

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Lazlo,
Did your smart tabs throw much of a spray behind them? Mine had a good bit of spray, I have not adjusted them yet, and next time I go out I won't forget the camera and I will get some pics of it. Your boat looks great!

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