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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 13:11 #1

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After sitting in the garage for over two years ( I wanted to track down a small leak first) I finally installed the Smart-Tabs on my 2006 Bayliner 175. Wow, I had no idea what a difference it would make. The ride is now so much smoother, it feel like a different boat. I wish I had installed them years ago.

Now installing them was not as easy as projected. The recommended drill bit size was way to small for the stainless steel mounting screws provided. The incredible hulk could not have seated them by hand. After cracking the gelcoat on two screws I ended up re-drilling with a larger bit. Even then I had to use a little mechanical help to fully seat the screws.

Still, when the day is done, it was the single best improvement I've installed. Best $100 invested ever!

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 14:14 #2

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Woodshark;713054 wrote: After sitting in the garage for over two years ( I wanted to track down a small leak first) I finally installed the Smart-Tabs on my 2006 Bayliner 175. Wow, I had no idea what a difference it would make. The ride is now so much smoother, it feel like a different boat. I wish I had installed them years ago.

Now installing them was not as easy as projected. The recommended drill bit size was way to small for the stainless steel mounting screws provided. The incredible hulk could not have seated them by hand. After cracking the gelcoat on two screws I ended up re-drilling with a larger bit. Even then I had to use a little mechanical help to fully seat the screws.

Still, when the day is done, it was the single best improvement I've installed. Best $100 invested ever!


i'm installing mine this week, good to hear they are worth the time and money

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 15:52 #3

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Minimal time to plane, reduced low speed wander, reduced porpoising, reduced chine walk in the turns (act as outriggers) and great for watersports.

Those that have them usually love them. Best bang for the buck, especially on older boats.

Congrats on the install

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 22:45 #4

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Just about to get smart tabs.

Firstly for a 185BR 4.3l. what size should I get, is 40Lb the right size?

Also where do you get them for $100?

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 23:28 #5

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Macca;713222 wrote: Just about to get smart tabs.

Firstly for a 185BR 4.3l. what size should I get, is 40Lb the right size?

Also where do you get them for $100?


Tony,
I use 60 lb on my 195/ V6

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 20 Aug 2012 23:44 #6

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i bought my 1st boat a 07 175 about a month ago. 1st one i ever drove, seems good. what is this smart tab? i thought i read a post on here that someone said it made there boat slower. now im curiose. maybe ill look into one.

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 21 Aug 2012 00:09 #7

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NUTSY;713237 wrote: i bought my 1st boat a 07 175 about a month ago. 1st one i ever drove, seems good. what is this smart tab? i thought i read a post on here that someone said it made there boat slower. now im curiose. maybe ill look into one.


That member made several alterations to their boat....I doubt, unless installed incorrectly, that the tabs would effect more than a 3 MPH in top end speed. jmo

http://www.nauticusinc.com/

There are 2 configurations...the original ST's...Stainless Steel....and, at the time, about $225. SX's are a composite, usually run about $120 or so. Several retailers carry them. I bought mine on ebuyersworld for $115 around 5 years ago...just when the SX's came out.

They are basically automatic tabs...no on board adjustment. They use a gas shock set at a preset tension....40, 60, 80 lbs. Water pressure forces them to close/retract. Basically they get your a$$ up quickly, help in the turns, and if you tube or ski, redeploy automatically. They will only retract as far as the water level....never completely closed. This helps with chine walk in the turns.

Even though most 185/195's rate a 60 lb tab, based on Nauticus's HP scale, many on this board have chosen to go with the 40 lb tab. I had a 115 HP boat....got the 60 lb. Although they helped immensely, I wish I had gotten the 40's. Still a bit too much drag for my boat. Planed at 22 MPH, WOT at 38 or so. Low speed wander almost gone. 3 seconds to plane.

Easier to install then Lenco's or Bennett's, although they definitely have their advantages. Price-wise, tough to beat on older, budget boats.

Wander thru the "epic" thread at the top of the forum :surr (big sucker). Lots of installs there....

mine on my 1650 in 2007

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 21 Aug 2012 00:56 #8

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thanks tbear. appreciate the pics and info. will look into these.

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 21 Aug 2012 05:23 #9

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Danny;713233 wrote: Tony,
I use 60 lb on my 195/ V6


Thanks Danny, I think we would be around the same weight at the back end so I am thinking 60lb as well.

I found an old post that said you had them set at the lowest setting, is this still the case?

I also see the do a trolling version, the only problem is I don't think I will be able to reach them from above to adjust when we fish?

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 21 Aug 2012 16:27 #10

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Macca;713222 wrote: Just about to get smart tabs.

Firstly for a 185BR 4.3l. what size should I get, is 40Lb the right size?

Also where do you get them for $100?


Macca,

https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_searchresults.asp

Whitworths in Aus now have them for about what i brought them in from the US.
Give em a call re shipping to NZ.

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 21 Aug 2012 23:56 #11

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Alan_192;713452 wrote: Macca,

https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_searchresults.asp

Whitworths in Aus now have them for about what i brought them in from the US.
Give em a call re shipping to NZ.


Hi Alan, I'm coming over to the Gold coast for a weeks holiday on the 27th September so will call into a store when I am over. We have rented a house up at Paradise Point.

I think they are down Southport, I have a car but no boat. Do any of you Ozzies know if you can hire a boat for a days crusing around the waterways?

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 22 Aug 2012 01:36 #12

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G'day,
Here's a link to a boat hire place at Surfers Paradise.

http://www.boabboathire.com.au/locations/index.php?id=8

Have Fun,
Shauno

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 22 Aug 2012 04:39 #13

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shauno;713578 wrote: G'day,
Here's a link to a boat hire place at Surfers Paradise.

http://www.boabboathire.com.au/locations/index.php?id=8

Have Fun,
Shauno


Thanks Shauno, I will look into this when I get up there.

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 22 Aug 2012 11:27 #14

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I have a 175 so I used the 40's. I purchased mine over two years ago so I don't remember where I got them but I do remember they we sold as "blemished" and had a lower price.

UPDATE: I purchased them here. http://www.iboats.com/Nauticus-SX-Smart-Tabs/dm/view_id.352485

I don't know if they are blemished models but the are currently clearance priced at $120

Macca;713222 wrote: Just about to get smart tabs.

Firstly for a 185BR 4.3l. what size should I get, is 40Lb the right size?

Also where do you get them for $100?

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 24 Aug 2012 04:05 #15

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Macca;713335 wrote: Thanks Danny, I think we would be around the same weight at the back end so I am thinking 60lb as well.

I found an old post that said you had them set at the lowest setting, is this still the case?

I also see the do a trolling version, the only problem is I don't think I will be able to reach them from above to adjust when we fish?


Macca,
I have mine set on #5 which is the hardest setting.
Seems to go well there.

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Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 01 Sep 2012 06:29 #16

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Ive been following this thread and pretty much any thread about smart tabs. I'm waiting on mine to arrive so I can put em on. I have a new 175 and the bubble on the transom makes for having to mount the brackets off plane from one another.

As per all of your discussions I'm going with 40 lb not 60 lb actuators like recommended by the manufacturers guidelines. And I also called nautilus for the special clevis pieces for the lower actuators to avoid binding and possible breakage. They are great by the way! Very helpfull.

I'll let you all know how it goes when I get all my parts and put them on.

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Smart Tabs SX w/ 40 lb actuators

Smart Tabs installed on my 175. Very happy. 22 Sep 2012 03:32 #17

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We have been lucky and got some nice weather and I got my tabs all mounted up with the special clevis' on tab position 3. I'll take and post some pics if you guys like.

Took her out this afternoon for a couple hours with a buddy, so my experiance with these tabs on my boat is limited and with a light load.

All I can say so far though is, WOW! Very quick time to plane. Less throttle to get on plane (Approx 3/4 throttle before and closer to 1/2 throttle now). Slower minimum plane speed (Approx 2700-2800 RPM to consistently maintain plane before, 2400-2500 RPM now). Porpusing is virtually eliminated. Bow rise is significantly reduced. Slow speed bow wonder reduced. Top speed appears to be the same but I didn't GPS I'm just going by the speedo and where it reached before and after with similer load. Fuel consumption I can imagine will be slightly better as I don't need as much throttle for as long to get the boat to cuising or planing speed.

I only noticed 2 negatives:
1 - In a high speed hard turn the stern tends to "drift" out a little (I can't remember what this is called in a boat, but I mean oversteer or "drift" like a drift car), the boat occationally did this before and it's not at all to any degree that it feels unsafe. Whether it's less or more I couldn't tell ya.

2 - Although the wake size appears the same, maybe slightly smaller, negligable if at all. It did have some white wash along the top edge that was very difficult to find a trim setting at wakeboard speed to clean up and make "crisp". More people, ballast, may yield different results.

All that said, as mentioned it was a light load, just me and a buddy. I'd imagine my findings with a heavier load will be a bit different, overall though they certainly make a positive, and very noticable, difference when I compair to the many times I've gone out with similer load.
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