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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 13:56 #1

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so the last 2 times out my 175 has started something that has me bit concerned.
when I am up on plane and trimmed up a bit, I will be cruising along and out of nowhere a loud rattles starts, It seems to be coming from the engine compartment. I throttle and trim down and the sound goes away.
I was also able to get the noise to happen when on plan trim was all the way down and started turning side to side quickly, just hold the wheel at 12 O'clock and got 9 O'clock to 3 O'clock several times and it started, the noise stayed there until I throttled down and came off of plane.
also a couple of times I was up on plane and trimmed up and when lowered the trim rather than throttling down first the noise would started until I throttle down.
each time I noticed the tach when this happens it seems to be around 4300 rpms or so.

any ideas?

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 14:16 #2

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I'd check your U-joints

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 14:30 #3

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at the risk of sounding realy stupid
is there an easy way to do that?
I bought the boat new aug 2010 and think I should still have warranty on it

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 14:36 #4

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You have to pull the drive off to check them. If the boat is under warranty, then bring it in and let the dealer deal with it.

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 15:24 #5

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do the U-joints fall under the 3year motor warranty?

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 19:06 #6

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detonation (pinging) can sometimes be referred to as a rattling noise. seeing as it was doing it when moving the outdrive side to side i like the idea of it being u-joint related as well, but if that doesn't pan out I would start looking into the possibility of the engine detonating. Don't know what kind of gas you use but I have been told that the 3.0 can be a little finicky with fuel, especially when it's warm out or if the engine is hot and is put under load. I have personally seen bad gas cause a lot of problem on vehicles. Make sure you are using a brand name gas (ie chevron [my favorite because they use techron which is an excellent fuel system/engine cleaner] shell, texaco. If you already are, I also know some people end up running higher octane gas to help with some issues. Just a few suggestions.

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 19:50 #7

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I usually use Shell gas 89 octane
I am pretty sure it's not gas related been using the same gas since I bought the boat, but then again the gas could have changed

the rattling noise doesn't sound like vales. The best way I could descrbe it is if you had a large CHEAP cresent wrench, you know the cheap one with lots of slop in the lower jaw held it near the end of the hndle and shook it hard and fast causing the jaw to rattle,
but LOUDER!!

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 20:58 #8

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It sounds like something vibrating at a certain freq. Have you done a basic check of all the bits to make sure nothing is loose?

I am not sure if you have power steering it could be the pump?

If you can reproduce the noise easily then next time you are out take someone with you remove the engine cover and go hunting...

Good luck Rattles can be a pain.

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 21:28 #9

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I have thought about the power steering pump as well
about 2 weeks ago there was a slight nickle size spot under the pump in the hull and the mounting bracket was damp with fuild. but I cleaned it up and it hasn't come back
the pump is why I tried the quick movement of the wheel to see if it brought the noise on, and it did
I was thinking about the next time out removing the belt for the power steering pump and see if I could get the noise to happen

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2010 Baliner 175 18 Jun 2012 21:41 #10

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The rule of thumb is if you have a 'noise' at either hard starboard, or hard port, then your u-joint (you only have one) has gone 'south'.

The newest u-joints are perma-sealed, and you may have some water being introduced into that area.

The other possibility will be the gimbal bearing...and both can be ruled out with a simple removal of the outdrive. That is easy to do, but not everyone will be willing to do this.

See if your warranty covers these concerns, and if not we will be here to guide your through.

Happy boating1

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2010 Baliner 175 19 Jun 2012 07:27 #11

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Do you have a smart phone because if so video it picking up the noise and post it here.

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2010 Baliner 175 19 Jun 2012 13:51 #12

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I had the exact same sound from an older Reinell that I had, or what seems to be similar sounding. It was my alternator.

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2010 Baliner 175 19 Jun 2012 15:15 #13

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Sounds from the great 175. For me it was the steering cable and throttle cable hitting the fiberglass under gunwale. Check that too! I ened up straping mine down with velcro straps to hold them close together.

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2010 Baliner 175 19 Jun 2012 19:28 #14

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My experience. Take a look at this thread I started.:pop

http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/forum/showthread.php?71307-Need-help

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2010 Baliner 175 27 Jun 2012 18:48 #15

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I recorded the noise my engine is making and played it for the service department manager at the marina
he said he could hear it on the recording but after checking the boat out in the tank he then said he couldn't tell anything from the phone recording and there was nothing wrong with the boat
with the wind in the recording it is a little hard to hear and the volume of the chatter doesn't seem as dramatic as it does when on the boat but you can hear the noise in the recording
now just to figure out how to attach the recording to this page! LOL
I used my iphone and just recorded a video

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2010 Baliner 175 28 Jun 2012 02:55 #16

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the noise starts at around 6 seconds and stops at 20 seconds when I throttle down

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2010 Baliner 175 28 Jun 2012 02:59 #17

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Now I am no expert but it sounds like something vibrating to me, which will also explain why it only happens at 6 seconds and stops when you let off the gas. It's not the flame arrestor is it.

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2010 Baliner 175 28 Jun 2012 03:37 #18

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Have you had the Aircleaner off? Maybe I am missing the sound but it sounds like it is breathing a little hard. Take the filter off and give it a good clean out. Check the butterfly on your carbs, these normally have 2 little screws on the top, it almost sounds like one of these is loose.

Surely your boat dealer would pick something this simple up:eek:

Good luck

Keep us informed with your hunt, love to know what it actually is.

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2010 Baliner 175 28 Jun 2012 03:50 #19

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the only thing 95% of boat dealers "pick up" is customers money....... After that they are just a burden.....

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2010 Baliner 175 28 Jun 2012 04:47 #20

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I have the same noise on my 2011 175
happens only when at full throttle while going straight or when at 3/4 throttle and i crank the wheel hard to the right.....

dealer is over 3 hrs away i thought it might have been something to do with my power steering, but i'm not too sure.
tomorrow i will be out on the lake and i will try to record some audio.
to me it sounds like when you pull apart velcro....
any ideas anyone?

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2010 Baliner 175 29 Jun 2012 04:18 #21

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Macca;699138 wrote: Have you had the Aircleaner off? Maybe I am missing the sound but it sounds like it is breathing a little hard. Take the filter off and give it a good clean out. Check the butterfly on your carbs, these normally have 2 little screws on the top, it almost sounds like one of these is loose.

Surely your boat dealer would pick something this simple up:eek:

Good luck

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I'm with Macca, with the wind noise it's a little tough to tell, but it sounds exactly like a vacuum leak. Maybe your air cleaner is either loose or isnt seated properly, just an idea.

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2010 Baliner 175 29 Jun 2012 11:04 #22

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Flapper / shutter maybe ?

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it's more of a metallic rattle. Than a vacuum leak

I spoke with the marina again today and the service manager swears there is nothing out of the ordinary. He said they checked every nut and bolt in the engine compartment and the out drive.
I have had the boat since Aug 2010 and I know there is something different with it. It started about three trips ago and has progressively gotten worse.
I tried explaining that he may not have gotten the right conditions to get the noise to start but he still insists there is nothing wrong
I told him this weekend when I have the boat out and it starts making the noise I am not going to throttle down to make it go away and if it blows it is on him
His words were “try to blow it up, I don’t mean run it at 6 grand and make it blow but run it hard”

I will try and get some better audio this weekend.

Even if it is something that will not cause the motor to blow it is still annoying as hell!!

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Bummy;699529 wrote: it's more of a metallic rattle. Than a vacuum leak

I spoke with the marina again today and the service manager swears there is nothing out of the ordinary. He said they checked every nut and bolt in the engine compartment and the out drive.
I have had the boat since Aug 2010 and I know there is something different with it. It started about three trips ago and has progressively gotten worse.
I tried explaining that he may not have gotten the right conditions to get the noise to start but he still insists there is nothing wrong
I told him this weekend when I have the boat out and it starts making the noise I am not going to throttle down to make it go away and if it blows it is on him
His words were “try to blow it up, I don’t mean run it at 6 grand and make it blow but run it hard”

I will try and get some better audio this weekend.

Even if it is something that will not cause the motor to blow it is still annoying as hell!!


once you get out on the water and get the noise to duplicate, have someone else steer the boat and pull the engine cover off [without letting it blow away :-) ] once you have the engine cover off you should be able to more accurately pinpoint where the noise is coming from, just make sure you watch yourself with the belts a spinnin'

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I have raised the hood when the noise was happening, but I couldn't pinpoint where it was coming from.
Last night I went and zip tied every wire I could find and plan on getting some self-adhesive foam and putting it anywhere the throttle cable may come into contact with the haul, not that I think it is.

Even if it is nothing that will cause damage to the engine it will still drive me crazy. I am the type of person that searches out the squeaks and rattles in a vehicle and this sound is way more than a little annoying!
The video does no justice to the volume and pitch of the sound.
When the noise kicks in even people riding in the bow turn and look back.

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