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Electric or Gas 07 Jul 2014 04:46 #1

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What is the general consensus regarding cook tops ? – I need to replace the old electric/meths stove in my 3055 and am leaning towards putting an LP Gas stove in. I am concerned about the risk factor of having gas on the boat, but a mate of mine who has a 34’ Catalina swears by Gas .. ???

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I like the alcohol/electric best of all. It is the safest, but the propane is hotter, but when I am on the boat, I am NOT in a hurry and if the percolator takes an extra 2 minutes, that's ok.

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Propane all the way!

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ozhummer wrote: What is the general consensus regarding cook tops ? – I need to replace the old electric/meths stove in my 3055 and am leaning towards putting an LP Gas stove in. I am concerned about the risk factor of having gas on the boat, but a mate of mine who has a 34’ Catalina swears by Gas .. ???

I'll be leaning that way also when I replace my alcohol/electric. I've been using propane in my dads boat since 1983, never had any issues with it. I like the instant heat adjustment you get with a gas burner.
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I have replaced the electric / alcohol unit twice on my current and my previous boats.
The alcohol is / was impossible to obtain here in Ireland and to use the electric obviously required a generator.
I opted for a propane hob along with a propane oven / grill unit. I have never had an issue and the installation has all the safety devices required.
Propane cookers are the norm, in the UK and Ireland, any USA imported boats around with the electric/ alcohol cookers left installed are never used,

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I replaced part of my all electric stove/oven by separating the oven and installing a new electric cook top.
I was installing new counter top and I did not want to deal with the extra work (installing propane compared to hooking up a few wires).
Yes propane is quicker, BUT I feel safer with electric.

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Pau Hana wrote: Propane all the way!


+1 I removed my propane and replaced with alcohol and I wish I hadn't. Propane cooks much better and faster. I am in a hurry. :woohoo:

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ozhummer wrote: What is the general consensus regarding cook tops ? – I need to replace the old electric/meths stove in my 3055 and am leaning towards putting an LP Gas stove in. I am concerned about the risk factor of having gas on the boat, but a mate of mine who has a 34’ Catalina swears by Gas .. ???


LP gas systems can be made to be very safe. Sailboats seldom have generators until they hit 40' or so and instead almost always use propane for cooking. While powerboats are more likely to have electric cooking, many use propane. I have personally never heard of a propane accident but I have seen several accidents with alcohol and one with pressurized diesel.

Be sure to install a switch local to the galley that controls the LP tank shut-off solenoid valve, and install a fume sensor for LP gas.

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Wow that's a nice counter top.

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I have an on board generator so I elected to go electric HOWEVER, biggest issue is we have 110v on board and no manufacturer makes conventional electric units that actually give good heat as you are limited to a 15a breaker. That being said I went induction, faster than propane and actually puts out mega heat if desired or can be controlled to simmer ever so little. Has to be the best tech ever. I elected to build mine in using a single burner unit to save valuable counter space but it is easily removed for placement elsewhere. I also keep a second unit in the cabinet which can be used on any outlet if desired.

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I had enough problems with the electric/alcohol stove switches and went propane. I also installed a propane sniffer below the step going into the cabin. My tank is on the transom and I have stainless steel braided gas hose going from the tank to the stove. Love the heat. We cook faster and can stay on anchor without the need to be married to a marina slip. Plus using someone's suggestion, we have a clay flower pot we flip upside down and can heat the cabin quickly but keep mositure down to clear windows and no wetness...






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I never knew a toe could detect a gas leak...that being said..alcohol is very dangerous...it has NO visible flame. Spill some and then lite fire and your in for a surprise.

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I have propane on my 4087 with a master LP shutoff switch in the galley. I recently even switched my frig out to a Dometic RM2652 LP / Electric. Runs on power when plugged in to shore, but switches over to propane while on the hook. Needed to reconfigure ventilation for frig, but overall great change as the LP system for the frig is very efficient and now no battery drain while on the hook. No more than that of a pilot light as far as LP usage for frig.

Just a few notes about propane. If you're going to have a leak, gas drops to lowest point. Make sure you have detectors installed at the lowest area(s), as Go Aweigh points out. Additionally, make sure you take extra safety precautions with your hook ups. Ensure your hoses are properly connected, and you've used the proper LP tape and fitting sealants. You should be checking your LP hoses on an annual basis as well. Also make sure your LP hoses are anchored (zip tied, or clamped to fixed wall) so they don't move at joints / connections or experience unnecessary movement that could cause "rubbing" or wear on the hoses. Once connected, ensure you've checked all connections for potential leaking before final placement of appliance.

Here is a great article on LP safety www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_39/fe...d-Donts_11344-1.html

Note that many have an unfounded fear of LP leaks. It is important to add a couple of safety procedures to your initial boat checks before getting underway. Make sure you vent engine compartments thoroughly before starting your boat, check for LP smell, and just use common sense and you'll be fine!

Hope this has been helpful!

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Geasea wrote: I have replaced the electric / alcohol unit twice on my current and my previous boats.
The alcohol is / was impossible to obtain here in Ireland
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Really? really? LOL

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Geasea wrote: I have replaced the electric / alcohol unit twice on my current and my previous boats.
The alcohol is / was impossible to obtain here in Ireland
Martin


Really? really? LOL


yeah, I was laughing at that one myself . . . . . . . like the old joke: " . . . there was this Irishman and he was walking out of a bar . . . . . . no really, it COULD happen . . ."

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Geasea wrote: I have replaced the electric / alcohol unit twice on my current and my previous boats.
The alcohol is / was impossible to obtain here in Ireland
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Really? really? LOL


If it was to become common knowledge that the burning of alcohol was a common practice in Ireland, I would be thrown out of the country for treason :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I installed a Force 10 propane range. We love it.
I just finished the propane box install. I built a box out of starboard and installed it inside my existing bar cabinet on the fly bridge.
In addition to the solenoid operated range outlet I put in one for the BBQ and a third for my crab cooker. These have manual valves..
My LP detector is just next to the stove under the cabinet kick.

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Chief Alen wrote: Wow that's a nice counter top.

I was just thinking myself as I read through the the posts !!!!
back to the original post. I would go for lpg with a good installation that can be tested for easily.

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We had alchohol/Electric on our previous boat and propane on our current one. We much prefer the propane.

Keep in mind that we don't have a generator, nor do we plan on getting one. We like total quiet when anchored out.

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Pacrimrat wrote: I installed a Force 10 propane range. We love it.
I just finished the propane box install. I built a box out of starboard and installed in inside my existing bar cabinet on the fly bridge.
In addition to the solenoid operated range outlet I put in one for the BBQ and a third for my crab cooker. These have manual valves..
My LP detector is just next to the stove under the cabinet kick.



Pacrimrat,
Please post a couple pictures when you have time as this is on my to do list ... Princes is dying slowly and needs to be put out of her misery!

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Be sure to talk with your insurance agent and also your marina manager before buying anything.

Most marinas require a current gas survey certificate and your insurance will want to be advised as well.

If you contact them first you can find out what sort of system you need to be compliant with their requirements.

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Factory propane with safety switch. Love it.

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Pacrimrat wrote: I installed a Force 10 propane range. We love it.
I just finished the propane box install. I built a box out of starboard and installed in inside my existing bar cabinet on the fly bridge.
In addition to the solenoid operated range outlet I put in one for the BBQ and a third for my crab cooker. These have manual valves..
My LP detector is just next to the stove under the cabinet kick.



Pacrimrat,
Please post a couple pictures when you have time as this is on my to do list ... Princes is dying slowly and needs to be put out of her misery!


The princes died last year on our way south, the oven switch went out.
PM me and I'll send you some pics of what I did. Chris

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